Interview with Nicole Aish
by Shannon Martin

Nicole Aish at the 2005 USA 8K Championships in New York City.

Nicole Aish, 30, of Gunnison, Colorado, will be running in the Freihofer’s 5K on June 3 2006 in Albany, New York and the Circle of Friends, New York Mini 10K on June 10 in New York City. A former 1500-meter track specialist as a collegian at Western State University in Gunnison, Aish ran PR times of 4:20 in the 1500 meters, 9:17 in the 3000 meters and 15:54 in the 5000 meters. After graduating from college, Aish signed with Nike. Last spring, after discovering magnesium and B12 deficiencies, Aish chose to focus less on the track and more on road races. She decided to train for her first marathon, the Twin Cities Marathon/USA Marathon Championships, which she won in 2:40:21.

This past winter, Aish raced in the national cross country championships in New York City, placing seventh in the 8K with a time of 27:24 and placing ninth in the 4K with a time of 12:57. This spring, she continues to concentrate on road races. She is married to, and coached by New Zealand Olympian Michael Aish.

Fast-Women.com: So, you’re running the Friehofer’s 5K, and the Circle of Friends New York Mini 10K . Are you excited to return to the East coast ?
Nicole Aish:
I am. I love coming to New York. I’m so pleased that this year it has worked out that I can run both Freihofer's and the Mini. There’s always really great competition at both races. Freihofer's is a tough course, but definitely a fun one. If you can run fast at Freihofer's then I feel you can run really well on the track. I also like running Freihofer’s for the cookies of course [laughs]. This will be my first time at the Mini so we’ll have to see how it goes.

New York Road Runners always puts on great races. They do a really good job; any race that they host is always fun.

FW: Do you have any goals set for either race?
NA: For Freihofer’s, I hope to crack the top 10, since it is such a deep field. A PR would be nice. I know they changed the course a little, but it should still be possible to achieve a PR. I just hope to have a really good day there. [Editor's Update: Aish did make the top ten! She finished in 10th place with a time of 16:11.5.]

For the Mini, I have yet to run that race, so I don’t know what to expect. I’ll just have to go out there and run a good hard race and see what happens. As for a specific goal, I’ll let you know after my performance at Freihofers [laughs]! If I can run under 33 minutes, I’d be so pleased. [Editor's Update: Aish nearly reached her Circle of Friends New York Mini 10K time goal, finishing in 12th place with a time 33:22.]The weather is a factor too; it’s going to be very hot and humid isn’t it?

FW: The weather in New York in June can go either way, breezy and mild or hot and humid, you just never know. I’m assuming that you are staying on the East Coast, being that the races are only a week apart from each other.
NA:
Yes, our friends, the Nary’s, are always kind enough to house us when Michael or I are on the east coast. They live outside of Boston, very close to the ocean. There are a lot of nice trails there, so I’m excited about staying with them and training there.

FW: Is there a specific track event or road race that you are preparing for in the future and coordinating your training around?
NA: Well, I’m still up in the air about track. I may consider running at the national championships. Right now, I’m mostly focusing on Freihofer’s, the Mini, and Steamboat [Steamboat Classic 4-Mile in Peoria, Illinois, on June 17]. My main goal is to run a solid, fast marathon this fall and then focus on the 5k and 10k in 2007.

FW: That’s certainly a great goal. Have you decided which marathon you are going to run in the fall?
NA: No, I haven’t. It really depends on which marathon will have me and where I think I can run my best. I guess we just need to decide which race would set me up the best for the winter and for my ultimate goal of the 2008 Olympics trials; it may be that I need a flat course or I may need a more challenging course. Each marathon has its pros, you know, so it depends on which pros will most fit my needs.

FW: You’ve competed at many different distances, from the 1500 to the marathon! What’s your favorite distance to run?
NA: That’s a good question and a tough one too. It’s funny because I don’t really think I have a favorite. When you’re having a good race then of course you’d say, for example “Oh I love the 5K,” but if it’s going bad say in a 10,000-meter race on the track it can be so miserable and you may vow to never run one again, but somehow you always come back.

I like the challenge of the marathon. I’ll like it even more if I can work out how to run it [laughs]! Of course I love the 1500-meter; it was my distance in college, but I always knew that I didn’t have the leg speed to be good enough on the national or world stage. Anyhow…sorry for the long answer on this one.

FW: No worries. Do you miss the track now that you are focusing more on the roads?
NA: I do miss the track at times, though running the roads has been a nice change. I still train on the track once a week just so I can keep my leg speed and rhythm. I just needed a mental break from it and decided to try something different this year. I’ll be back on it racing next spring for sure.

FW: Do you have any runner heroes, heroines, or role models?
NA: I do. Some are friends like Colleen De Reuck and Elva Dryer. Then, there’s Libby Hickman, who was such an awesome competitor, and, of course, Deena [Kastor]. I also look up to Kerryn McCann from Australia who just ran a gutsy marathon at the Commonwealth Games. Not only are they great runners, but also they’re nice people and have always been that way as long as I’ve been in the running world. To them, it doesn’t matter who you are or what you have done; they always take the time to say hi and offer any advice you may need. They are great role models for the up-and-coming girls on the circuit.

FW: How does it feel to be a professional runner yourself?
NA: It’s the best; it’s so great because you have a job that you absolutely love. It’s also great for Michael and I because we can train together, on easy days of course. It’s nice to wake up every day and go to a job you love.

Some people think that professional runners have it easy though because we get to run for a living. It’s really not easy, though. We have to train no matter what. We have to work though injuries, bad weather, freezing ice baths, you name it, and that is not always easy. We have to make money doing this, so we have to put a lot of effort into it, but I wouldn’t change it for the world!

FW: When you were in college, did you foresee yourself becoming a professional runner?
NA: Well, when I first went to college, it didn’t occur to me. I honestly didn’t know that people “ran” for a living. I went to a Division II school so most of us didn’t even know much about college running! But then after seeing Elva [Dryer], who went to my college, sign with Nike, I started to see that it was a true possibility.

Right after college, I moved to Albuquerque and trained there and then eventually made my way back here to Colorado. At first, I didn’t know how far I could take it. You know, it doesn’t happen over night. It took me seven years to get to where I am now and I still don’t think I’ve “made it” yet.

I still have a lot of work to do. I am comfortable saying that I am a professional runner, but I still don’t consider myself totally professional until I move up in my field a bit. I don’t consider myself elite-elite, you know? I guess it’s just a personal thing. You set certain goals for yourself and until I reach those goals, for example making Worlds, and of course the Olympics, then maybe I can say that I am what people consider an elite athlete.

FW: You’re surely elite in my eyes, but I do know what you mean. How long do you see yourself running professionally? Is that something you have ever thought about and talked with Michael about?
NA: Yes we have thought about it and neither of us has put a date on how long we will continue to run. We both feel that as long as we’re running well and our bodies hold up, we’d like to continue to run.

FW: That’s a great attitude to have. You and Mike have been together a long time. Where did you originally meet? I’m sure it had something to do with the track!
NA: We met at college. He’s from New Zealand and was there on a scholarship.

FW: And you’ve been running together ever since! Where is he these days?
NA: Right now he’s training in London getting ready to run the 10K in Hengelo. He has four track races over there and then he’ll come home.

FW: Are the two of you separated a lot with your different races?
NA: Yes we are and it stinks, but I guess it comes with the job, right? We talk and text all the time, which helps.

FW: Do you train with anybody when Michael is away, or do you train by yourself?
NA: I have quite a few women I can run with out here; Amy Manson meets me quite a lot and sometimes Colleen De Reuck when she and I can get on the same schedule. When Mike’s Australian friends are here training, they will meet me a few times for warm-ups or easy runs. We all may have different areas of focus when we get together to train, but it’s always nice to have someone to run with, so no, I’m not always alone!

FW: You went to the Commonwealth Games this winter; how long did you stay there and did you train there?
NA: Michael was competing, so we stayed there for one week in Melbourne and three weeks in New Zealand. There is a great park where Mike is from that is great for training so we always enjoy going back. It was actually used in the movie The Last Samurai.

FW:Really? That’s interesting. Do you prefer running at sea level or altitude?
NA: I always seem to train better being at altitude. I feel stronger and seem to have better races when I’m up high! I’ve tried sea level training for long periods and seem to get flat and tired so we just stick to what works for now.

FW: It’s hot there now, right?
NA: It is! It’s already in the nineties.

FW: Whoa that must be rough!
NA: It is, but you just have to get used to it, because so many races happen in the summer and are not only hot, but also humid. It’s just a bit early for the heat right now.

FW: That is true; hopefully the weather will be picture perfect here when you come out for Freihofer’s and the Mini. Anything else you’d like to add?
NA: Just a thank you to Mary Wittenburg and New York Road Runners for all of the great work that you do.

Interview conducted on May 22, 2006, and posted on June 2, 2006.

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