Interview
with Annie Bersagel
by
Shannon Martin
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Annie Bersagel finishing at the USA Cross Country Chamiponships in New York.
Photo by Alison Wade
New York Road Runners
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Annie Bersaegel, 23, joined Team USA Minnesota in January 2006. On June 22, she will run the 10,000 at the USATF Outdoor Nationals.
Bergsagel ran cross country and track for Greeley Central High School in Colorado, where she was the state champion in the 1600 meters, and runner-up in the 3200 meters in 2000. She led her high school cross country team to the 2000 State Championship where she was runner-up individually.
Bersagel went on to run for Wake Forest, where she was an eight-time All-American: three in cross country, two in indoor track, and three in outdoor track. In track and field, she earned her All-American status in the outdoor 10,000 meters in 2003, 2004 and 2005, and for indoor in the 5000 meters in 2003 and 2005. Bersagel was the conference champion in the indoor 5000 meters in 2005 and for the outdoor 10,000 meters in 2004 and 2005. She is also the school record holder in the 3000, 5000 and 10,000 meters. The five-time Academic All-American set her personal best of 33:02 in the 10,000 in the spring of 2005.
Since joining Team USA Minnesota, Bersagel finished 10th in the 8K at the USA Cross Country Championships on February 18 in New York. She was also named to the U.S. team that competed at the Yokohama International Women's Ekiden in Japan on February 26. Bersgael obtained her qualifier for USA Outdoor Nationals by running 33:32 in the 10,000 meters at the Cardinal Invitational on April 30. Most recently, Bersagel won the 2006 USA Women's Half-Marathon Championship on June 3, in Kansas City, with a debut time in the distance of 1:14:36.
Not only does Bersagel excel athletically, but also academically. She earned a bachelor's degree in political science and economics at Wake Forest and has completed internships with the U.S. State Department at the embassy in Oslo, Norway, and with the U.S. Agency for International Development in Washington, D.C. She also served as the U.S. representative to the NATO Youth Summit on Anti-Terrorism in Belgium and the Danish Atlantic Youth Seminar in Denmark last year. From mid-August 2006 to mid-May 2007, Bersagel will be studying again in Oslo, Norway, under a Fulbright Scholarship. She will be focusing on international conflict and negotiation.
Besragel has been named one of two recipients of the 2006 NCAA Walter Byers Postgraduate Scholarship. She will receive a $21,500 scholarship from the NCAA and has the option of renewing the scholarship in year two of her studies if she is in excellent academic standing. Bersagel plans to pursue a master of public policy degree with a concentration in foreign affairs at the Humphrey Institute at the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis. She will start her studies there in the fall of 2007 and will continue training with Team USA Minnesota.
Fast-women.com had the opportunity to speak with the talented Bersagel two days before outdoor nationals.
Fast-Women.com: You have accomplished quite a lot this year. In recent weeks, what type of training have you done to gear up for nationals?
Annie Bersagel:
I think Dennis [Barker] would kind of call it a multi-pace training approach. We do a lot of longer lactate threshold intervals with short runs and some long runs with a little bit of a faster pace in the middle.
We also do some standard things, quarters [400 meters] and a lot of easy runs. I say I probably do two workouts a week and then maybe a hard long run.
FW: As you and Katie McGregor are both competing in the 10,000 meters at nationals, were you able to train together?
AB:
Actually, a lot of the time, I do my workouts on my own. We will go to the track together as a team. It seems as though we are all doing something a bit different because the racing schedules though the year don’t mesh all that well among us. Katie and I do a lot of the easy runs together though and almost always do our long runs together.
FW: What do you like most about being on Team USA Minnesota?
AB:
I just enjoy my teammates and my coach so much. It’s such a wonderful group. Really, everyone around the team is really supportive of it. You know, Pat [Goodwin – the founder of Team USA Minnesota] is always making sure that we are getting everything done and she volunteers her time to put things together for us. You know, and all the board members are really supportive of it.
I think it’s really important for post-collegiate runners to find other runners to hang out with. I mean I learn so much from them just by hanging out together.
FW: I bet that sense of community is great; you probably learn just as much from them outside of the training as you do in the training.
AB:
Oh, exactly. Those conversations that just happen randomly when we are out to dinner together or something like that; that’s where we really kind of pick up insights into the sport from each other. Since I am the youngest member of the team, I feel as though I was automatically adopted as the little sister of the group and all my teammates are just so warm and we really get along well.
FW: That’s great that you are able to bond with them. Your schedule seems pretty busy with work and running.
AB:
Actually, I haven’t been all that busy with work lately. My job here at the Brain Injury Association is winding down here. We are on a reduced schedule now that the session is out. It was quite a lot busier when the legislature was still in session.
FW: Tell me a little bit more about your position with the Brain Injury Association.
AB:
Well, I’m a public policy aide for them. I’m a registered lobbyist for Minnesota and I thought that following healthcare issues would be interesting. The opportunity to work in a disability community came up and I decided to take it on. It was kind of a big introduction to public healthcare programs and I was just really astonished at the complexities involved with the many different rules and how the programs are funded and so on.
It was a pretty steep learning curve right off the bat to kind of follow all that was going on with legislation, but it was really fun. It was a totally different avenue from my running and something enjoyable that I could do outside of that. It’s important for me to kind of have a distraction like that.
I really enjoy my boss and the people I work for are great. It’s inspiring; it’s an opportunity to meet some pretty courageous people. A lot of brain injury survivors and their families are just amazing so it gives you a sense of perspective into what we do as athletes.
FW: That’s really great. So, now that this position is winding down, you have a bit of a break and then you are off to Norway for some more policy work. Tell me more about that.
AB:
Well, I’m leaving in mid-August and I will be studying international diplomacy at the University of Oslo. I will have an advisor who is on the faculty there; she once worked in the ministry of foreign affairs. So, basically, I will be doing my research project there and taking some coursework in the Masters of Peace and Conflict program there and while I’m there I’ll continue training.
Dennis is going to continue coaching me. I’ll also be training with a club team there; actually it’s Grete Waitz’s former club. I ran with them before when I was there.
FW: That’s great, so you already have a running community set up for you.
AB:
Yup, some training partners lined up and I will continue working with Dennis and then I will come back in late May and I will begin studying with the Humphrey Institute at the University of Minnesota in the fall of 2007. It’s a two year program. So, when I return to the states, I will jump right back into training and Team USA Minnesota.
FW: Do you plan on doing any races when you are out in Europe?
AB:
For sure! I’m going to certainly run the world road running championships in Hungary in October. I’m glad it’s in Europe and not in Asia or something because it will be so easy for me to get over there.
There are also a lot of great road races and relays in Norway. I’m also hoping to be able to travel to some of the European cross meets. It kind of depends on what my schedule dictates. I’ll probably be more able to do some of the longer races because it will be easier to do a few of those and find a really good field. So, that’s kind of the plan.
FW: Speaking of deep fields, you will be up against some great runners on Thursday [Sara Slattery, teammate Katie McGregor, and Jen Rhines, to name a few]. Do you have any strategies lined up?
AB:
I haven’t really developed a strategy. Since the half-marathon, my focus has been on recovery. I just started feeling like I was getting a sense of my sharpness back, so I haven’t really thought that far ahead. My coach and I have prepared for a hot and humid race, so we are definitely taking that into consideration going into the race. Also, since it’s a national championship race, times aren’t that important, so the strategy we develop will be more in terms of tactics and where to run in the pack instead of focusing on a specific time.
FW: You have a lot of great plans lined up for public policy involvement and running in the next year. Where do you see yourself in five years in terms of running and your public policy work?
AB:
I really don’t know at this point. My goal with running is to see how far I can take it. So, if I continue to improve from now until five years from now, I hope to still be active in the sport. If I felt like I leveled off and felt as though there was no way I could improve, then I would be ready to give it up. There’s really no way I’m going to let of this though until I reach that point. Certainly, it will be at least another three years before I contemplate moving into a non-running career. I really have to see at this point.
All that has happened this year has kind of exceeded my expectations. The half-marathon victory was such a huge accomplishment for me personally; I would have never anticipated anything like that going into this year. So, if things keep looking up like that, I will be in the sport for quite a while.
FW: That’s good to hear! Now, let’s talk about this amazing half-marathon victory. Did you have any idea what to expect the month or so of training leading into this race?
AB:
Well, early on, I saw the listing of the race and thought it would be a very interesting race because I usually do better at the longer distances. But my coach and I decided that I would do a 5K instead that week, so I really wasn’t training for the half-marathon at all. But I was doing this multi-pace training and a lot of longer runs and a lot of high volume threshold workouts, so I thought that the half was something that I could handle and when it came to the week before the race and we had to change plans a little bit, Dennis said “You know, I think you can handle this. You have done a lot of longer runs, so you will be ready for this.” So, there was really no specific training at all leading up to this race.
The week of the race though, I guess I tapered a little bit more than I normally would the few days before the race. Dennis told me to be really conservative and just see how the race goes. It would have been hard for him to give any more specific advice then that since I don’t have any experience in the event. [Laughing] I hope that answers your question as far as the training goes.
FW: It certainly does. That makes your win even more remarkable, that this was a race that you decided to compete in at the very last-minute.
AB:
I thought for a long time that I would really like to do a marathon some day so I just got the word Tuesday before this half-marathon that I would be able to run. I was so excited because I really just wanted to see if that was an option. It was nice going into it because I didn’t have any expectations as to where I would finish. I didn’t feel any pressure because it was such a new event. I really had everything to gain and nothing to lose so that definitely helped when I was racing.
[Editor’s Note: You can read more about Bersagel’s half-marathon in her journal entry.]
FW: So do you see yourself training for a marathon any time soon or will you be focusing on a different event for the 2008 Olympic Trials?
AB:
It doesn’t look like I’ll be doing a marathon before the Olympic Trials. So, for now, I will be focusing on the 10,000 meters and there are some things I need to work on with that. I haven’t run that my 10,000s in my career so far, so I want to work on that distance a little bit more.
FW: How do you feel about track and field versus road racing as a fairly new runner on the professional racing scene?
AB:
In all honesty, financially and everything, it’s a lot easier to go to road races just because of the way the system works. Team Minnesota makes a big effort to get us into some of the track races and provide us with some support. Without that support system, I don’t know if I would be able to run track and field at all.
FW: Wow, you must feel very fortunate.
AB:
I do and I’m really looking forward to this week. I’m excited also to cheer for my teammates. I’m all ready to go, to be up in the stands cheering my teammates.
I’m also excited that this is televised. It’s neat because I’ll be watching some of the big track and field events with my grandparents and I get to say “Oh, I train with her.” [Laughing] Giving my grandparents the inside story is kind of fun.
FW: That’s really neat. So, are your grandparents up there in Minnesota too?
AB:
I live with my grandparents here.
FW: Wow, that’s great. You have the support of a team and family. That must be nice.
AB:
It’s so nice. When I came out here to look at the team that said that I could live with them, that they wanted to do everything they could to support my running dreams. I thought that it would be a great thing to do, especially just getting started. It’s really been a valuable experience living with them. I learn all the stories about my dad when he was a kid and just what it was like for my grandparents growing up.
Establishing those connections and learning about where my family came from and the kind of life they had really puts in a sense of perspective. I feel a little bit spoiled!
Editor's Update: Annie Bersagel placed 12th in the 10,000 meters at the USATF championships, with a time of 34:35.28.
Interview conducted on June 20, 2006 and posted on June 22, 2006.
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